Aero Fighters 2 / Sonic Wings 2 [sonicwi2] (Arcade Emulated / M.A.M.E.)

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Aero Fighters 2 / Sonic Wings 2 [sonicwi2] 229,100 points
Aero Fighters 2 / Sonic Wings 2 [sonicwi2] 229,100 points
Aero Fighters 2 / Sonic Wings 2 [sonicwi2] 229,100 points
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Best run starts @ 4:45
Score @ 10:26

-- Posted by vigorousjammer on 2015-08-24 08:16:29   Reply
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Excuse my ignorance, but you've put the same scores up twice, once for Neo Geo and once for MAME. Did you mean to do that? Sorry if this is a silly question.

-- Posted by TheTrickster on 2015-08-24 18:43:17   Reply
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I had noticed this also. There was a brief discussion about neo geo in the forums. Neo geo did make a console for home gaming but the games were pretty much the same. There are neo geo emulators out there but if you played this on mame, which it looks like you did it, should stay in the mame catagory. One game entry shouldn't go in two catagories. That's kinda what I've gathered over my time here :)
-- Posted by derek on 2015-08-24 20:23:09   Reply
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One entry can be split into two charts on timed runs that also have a score, like racing games that time you on a track and also score pionts.
-- Posted by derek on 2015-08-24 20:26:55   Reply
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That makes sense to me, although I'm not sure which one to vote yes on here. VigorousJammer, did you play this on MAME?

-- Posted by TheTrickster on 2015-08-24 22:04:07   Reply
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I played it on Mame, however, you would use the same rom on a Neo Geo emulator, and in MAME, you're running Neo Geo bios.

The thing is... Neo Geo's home console didn't just release games there are almost the same, every Neo Geo game was made to be played in the arcade and at home through the use of a dip-switch. So, you arne't just getting "close" to the arcade experience with Neo Geo games, you are literally playing the same exact game with the same exact code simply at home.

That's why it's confusing to me that these leaderboards are split up, as it's the same exact game with the same exact code being emulated.

-- Posted by vigorousjammer on 2015-08-25 15:06:11   Reply
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my understanding is the roms are yes exactly the same, just like using NES roms in an emulator you use the exact same code as if you'd put a cart in the NES.

what I'm unsure about is if the hardware is the same, or is there any difference in how it runs those roms.  I don't see much information about this reading about it.  sometimes I see wording like "pretty much" the same.  Wikipedia article suggests the home console (AES) is less colorful.  it also describes the hardware as "based on" the MVS hardware.

the Wikipedia article "Neo Geo (system)" contains this statement:

It has been found that in a few home version games, one could unlock the arcade version of the game by inputting a special code.

this also suggests there could be significant differences.

-- Posted by S.BAZ on 2015-08-25 17:05:35   Reply
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It's also been my understanding that the games are all the same, whether you're collecting AES or MVS carts, and that the BIOS that is being run on the board itself determines which region of the game to run, as well as if it should run in arcade mode or not.

More info here:

In fact, there is a thing called the Universe BIOS, which you can install onto either MVS or AES hardware, and it can let you switch between the different versions of a game, as well as switch the region of the game all at the boot screen.

This page describes the Universe BIOS:

Still, I guess I don't know any specifics about the home version. Some games did give you more gameplay options in the home version, so it is possible they could have given you more lives by default or maybe even had a slightly different tuning on the difficulty. So even though it's technically the same code, there is still the possibility of minor, intentional differences by the developers.
I guess since I was running the emulation in arcade mode, I should stick to posting it to the arcade leaderboard.

-- Posted by vigorousjammer on 2015-08-25 19:00:51   Reply
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sounds right!

it's always easy to consolidate the two charts later if it is found they are indeed exactly the same - not so easy to sort out scores from a single chart if the games turn out to be different.

thanks for the infos yes

-- Posted by S.BAZ on 2015-08-29 18:32:39   Reply